Topic: Is this fair?

[Duke Jupiter]

Is everything political?

What drove that home for me was when I was involved in the fight to repeal the mandatory helmet law in WV. Our most outspoken opposition in Charleston was from the democrats. They felt they needed to protect us from ourselves. Us poor dumb hillbillys weren't smart enough to know when to wear a helmet. The pubs, on the other hand, supported us almost 100%. Since we know where the majority lies in WV., it's not hard to figure out why the law was never repealed. I will give Manchin credit, he said if the repeal got to his desk he would sign it. Of course he knew the odds of that happening were slim to none.

Most states have helmet laws and there is good reason for it. I personally don't care if folks wear helmets or not. But in this case the dems were lookin' out for you. If it was not for helmet laws poor folks like me could not afford the motorcycle insurance premiums. Just maybe the pubs were linked with the insurance agencies and were hopin' to make a few $
Best regards,
Duke (thinkin' out of the box like only a middle of the roader could) Jupiter

What makes you think you couldn't afford the premiums? Do you carry fully coverage with medical payments on your bike? I know lots of folks who ride in Ohio and South Carolina, and their insurance isn't any higher than WV.

I did forget to mention a democrat who gave us a lot of support in the fight. It was A James Manchin. He was a politician through and through, but he was a good guy.

Why do you think most states have helmet laws? WV is usually higher in all types of insurance. That is not surprising. Ole' Manchin did seem to be ok. Ole' Ken Hechler seemed to be ok as well.

Best regards,
Duke (save folks from themselves) Jupiter

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[Graybeard]

Why do you think most states have helmet laws? WV is usually higher in all types of insurance. That is not surprising. Ole' Manchin did seem to be ok. Ole' Ken Hechler seemed to be ok as well.

Best regards,
Duke (save folks from themselves) Jupiter

Duke, you never answered my questions. Do you have medical payments on your motorcycle insurance? If not, why would your premium increase? My insurance isn't high, $100 a year for liability, it would be about $250 for mid range full coverage. What's yours run?

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[Duke Jupiter]

Why do you think most states have helmet laws? WV is usually higher in all types of insurance. That is not surprising. Ole' Manchin did seem to be ok. Ole' Ken Hechler seemed to be ok as well.

Best regards,
Duke (save folks from themselves) Jupiter

Duke, you never answered my questions. Do you have medical payments on your motorcycle insurance? If not, why would your premium increase? My insurance isn't high, $100 a year for liability, it would be about $250 for mid range full coverage. What's yours run?

Mine is about $175 per year and if there were no helmet laws I guarantee it would be higher. If you ain't wearin' a helmet you dang sure better carry medical. You could be right but just like car insurance is cheaper if you have air bags you get a discount. That is my reasonin' . I have no data to back it up. it's me opinion.

Best regards,
Duke (born to be wild) Jupiter

Best regards,
Duke (born to be wild) Jupiter


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[Graybeard]

Mine is about $175 per year

Is that for liability or full coverage?

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[Duke Jupiter]

Mine is about $175 per year

Is that for liability or full coverage?

Old bike no need for full coverage. Me girlfriends father lives in SC I will check and see how much his insurance is. He has a little 883 sportster.



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[Graybeard]

Mine is about $175 per year

Is that for liability or full coverage?

Old bike no need for full coverage. Me girlfriends father lives in SC I will check and see how much his insurance is. He has a little 883 sportster.

Wow! Who'd of thought insurance would be more expensive in NC, almost double the cost here! You do know us hillbillys have quite a reputation when it comes to insurance claims, don't you?   

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[Duke Jupiter]

Mine is about $175 per year

Is that for liability or full coverage?

Old bike no need for full coverage. Me girlfriends father lives in SC I will check and see how much his insurance is. He has a little 883 sportster.

Wow! Who'd of thought insurance would be more expensive in NC, almost double the cost here! You do know us hillbillys have quite a reputation when it comes to insurance claims, don't you? 

If me memory serves me correctly car insurance and home  owners are more expensive in the good ole' Mountain State but that could be a changin'.
Best regards,
Duke (payin' the piper) Jupiter

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[notatroll]

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — Two Charleston Area Medical Center workers are losing their jobs because they refused to get a seasonal flu vaccine.

Hospital spokesman Dale Witte announced the firings Tuesday.

Witte says the employees could return to work if they receive vaccinations soon. If they don't, the terminations will be permanent.

He wouldn't identify the workers but said they worked in a clinical role.

The hospital announced the new policy last summer and the deadline to be vaccinated was Jan. 8. Exceptions were allowed for employees with medical reasons for avoiding the shot, such as allergies.

Hospital officials say mandatory vaccines for workers protect both patients and employees.

CAMC has about 6,000 employees.
http://www.wvva.com/Global/story.asp?S=11814685

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[Graybeard]

I wonder why they don't want a flu shot?

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[notatroll]

Some people do not like shots.  Some have other conditions that will react with them.   Some will take the shot and end up sick.

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[Graybeard]

Some people do not like shots.  Some have other conditions that will react with them.   Some will take the shot and end up sick.

One would think if it is so controversial that they're jobs are on the line, they would have a good reason and everyone would know the reason. I don't like peeing in a cup either, but I know I have to. It may shed some light on this if we knew why they refuse to take the shot. Personally, I don't think any of the reasons you gave are valid ones to risk your job over.

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[notatroll]

Some people do not like shots.  Some have other conditions that will react with them.   Some will take the shot and end up sick.

One would think if it is so controversial that they're jobs are on the line, they would have a good reason and everyone would know the reason. I don't like peeing in a cup either, but I know I have to. It may shed some light on this if we knew why they refuse to take the shot. Personally, I don't think any of the reasons you gave are valid ones to risk your job over.

 Well if the shot is going to cause you to have a seizure... would you take it?   Peeing in the cup is a little different that putting a foriegn substance into your body through an injection.   Personally I hate shots.

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[Graybeard]

Well if the shot is going to cause you to have a seizure... would you take it?   Peeing in the cup is a little different that putting a foriegn substance into your body through an injection.   Personally I hate shots.

Now c'mon, let's be serious. How many people have a seizure from a flu shot? I suppose I have the same percentage chance of having a seizure as anyone of those folks who are refusing, so the answer is yes, since I've gotten one the last couple years.

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[notatroll]

Well if the shot is going to cause you to have a seizure... would you take it?   Peeing in the cup is a little different that putting a foriegn substance into your body through an injection.   Personally I hate shots.

Now c'mon, let's be serious. How many people have a seizure from a flu shot? I suppose I have the same percentage chance of having a seizure as anyone of those folks who are refusing, so the answer is yes, since I've gotten one the last couple years.

Gray some folks have known seizure disorders and sometimes certain shots can bring them on. 

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[moondance27]

Some people do not like shots.  Some have other conditions that will react with them.   Some will take the shot and end up sick.

Actually that is a myth, you do not get he flu from the vaccination.  If you come down with the flu, it's only because you wer exposed to it prior to geting the shot.  There are very few reasons you cannot take the flu vaccination, one of which is an allergy to eggs.  I think it is reasonable to expect hospital staff to have received their flu vaccinations to keep down spreading the virus as well as to insure they are healthy to provide care.  In the case of a pandemic, full staffing would be a priority in a hospital.  I think it is a far from geting a vaccination to stop the spread of a deadly virus and forced sterilization.  Slippery Slope.

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